God Is My Co-Founder: Daniel Guzman on Leading Yoked

2026 1019 [03] Yoked Podcast + Daniel 01: And so I think I got the confidence that God is my co founder. He's my partner in this. And if I don't talk to my partner for more than a few days, and I'm like, Well, what what's going on? Why is it you know? And he's like, Well, I've been sitting over there, why don't you ask me? You know, spend time with me, the whole relationship thing. Before we jump into it, tell us about yourself, man. What do you do? Where'd you come from? Cool. Who the heck's Daniel? Thanks for having me, guys. You know, the only reason you can talk about faith, leadership, family performance is because you have to go through all the trials of that stuff.

Yeah. Right. So you can sit share an experience. So yeah, my name's Daniel. I grew up in Southern California. My trade is more in the strength and conditioning realm. That's how I started. How can I develop humans to become faster, stronger, more resilient, and have guidance to their training plan, essentially? That quickly got me thrown into more of the professional athlete world. So that was a huge God thing, just walked me into it. And I did a lot of work with NFL Combine, MLB off season, NHL off season, some pro surfing. I did everything when I first came out of college. And slackers. A bunch of slackers. my gosh, those guys didn't work very hard.

Yeah. I mean, the NFL guys work. It's an insane work rate. It's crazy. I know we work out on the weekends and it's a little bit higher than that. So did that. And then I quickly found myself in professional soccer with LA Galaxy at twenty three. I was the youngest head strength conditioning coach in the league. Good. And so again, things that don't make sense in my resume, when people see that, I tell this is proof of God right there. It's like I should have been thirty-five getting that job. Yeah. But at twenty-three, I got walked to the front line because I had had some good conversations with people on their second division team and kind of worked my way up.

So that's a longer story. I went from there to the US meds national team and then from the US meds national team to Los Angeles Football Club, which is was the new team in LA. It was a startup. So that was a totally new experience from having history and a bunch of, you know, previous trophies and expectation to new expectation and goals and visions, but there's there's no pages. It was page one. Yeah. So that was cool. Once I had finished that up for a bunch of reasons, I found myself in the world of genetics, which was just a a true like restart in my profession. Yeah. I knew nothing about genetics. But someone believed in me, gave me a good recommendation, said to the chairman and CEO, you should go hire this guy because you can mold him and he's got high integrity and he's a good communicator, but you can mold him and help get more out of this performance genetic stuff.

So I did that. And then somewhere in that, because I didn't have enough going on, my wife and I founded a hyperbaric wellness business in San Juan Capistrano. So that's kind of how we got here in the last ten to fifteen years, and it's been a wild ride. Dude, that's wild. There's a lot to dive in there. before we get into the meat of it, question for you. Okay. Which is harder? So you've got you've got three kids. what's harder, getting them out the door or getting a professional team on the bus? Well, the professional team are a bunch of kids sometimes. So that can also be difficult. You gotta be Really effective in your communication, tell them when the bus is leaving, when you have to get on there, when you have to check out of the hotel.

So that kind of stuff can come into play too. Which is more difficult? Gosh, we kind of talked about it before we started recording. And now I'm like, you know what? I'm thinking of both ends of the spectrum. Yeah. I think the, you know, with your kids, although there's real rawness and openness and there's emotions, I still think the professional side's a little bit more difficult because it's not your child. And so you have to maintain this level of respect that with your kids you can probably push the boundaries a little bit. You know, there's probably some consequences and threats you make where you you cross the line like, I shouldn't have threatened that because I really wanted ice cream today.

And now no one's getting ice cream. That's horrible. But probably the professional team, you know, there's twenty to thirty of them. You have to work as a team. There's a lot of emotions, their jobs in the line. Imagine that we just lost an away game in Houston. We got to get back in the plane. It's midnight. People are grouchy, they're tired. And so no one wants to serve anyone else. And that can be difficult because you really have to lay down your ego and be as humble as possible and say, Hey, I get that it's tough, but we have to still get home. We've got to pack these things. So professional team's gonna take that one. I can see it. I can see it, ma'am.

Well, dude, I want to jump in. something you and I have talked about offline quite a bit, but leadership can be super lonely. And I feel like it doesn't get talked about enough. Not that we need to cry in everybody's beer or anything, but it's like I think one of the reasons is is that you feel like you're the only one messing it up. And especially, I mean, with the advent of social media, you know, last decade for sure, it feels like everybody else is just killing it. Like damn watching Jeremy do what look look at this look what this guy's doing, right? Yeah. Like he's got it all buttoned up. I better not share with him that. You you talked about crying this this weekend, right?

Unfortunately. Thanks for bringing that back up. I I just wanted you to I just didn't want you to forget about it. Okay. and it's like those are the things we don't talk about. You know, you're at your desk, your head's in your hand, and you're like, bro, I don't I just don't know if this is gonna come together. And I think that's one of the main reasons why we're we feel so lonely. I don't know what you guys think, but it's like everybody else is crushing it. You're the only one screwing it up. Everybody else is smart, you're the only idiot who can't figure it out. And so I want to talk about that a little bit. And like, is that a real thing?

What do we do about it? Is this a you know, especially with the guys, is a lack like of of humility? Is it like a masculine thing? Like what is it and what do we do to overcome it? I don't know what you think about it, Jeremy. Yeah, leadership. w well, as you're sharing the thing I was thinking about with loneliness and leadership is it's this question of where did it begin? Where's the origin story of finding that you're alone in the journey? And I think sometimes that's the journey we take or or it could be even a choice we chose not to press in, a choice that we felt insecure. it could be all those things that kinda get in the way of of really finding ourselves lonely.

I know when I was in ministry, the hardest thing was I was telling these kids what to do and and I wasn't fully living it out or still exploring what was it what does it mean to like pursue this this journey of faith, you know, and then Fast forward then I I I went back to school for it and realized I was burnt out and I had all these pastors surrounded surrounding me that were burnt out like me. And it's like, well, I think even in the journey of of leadership is lonely, I think it's also leadership comes with the cost. And if you don't honor the cost, you're gonna be left living a a leadership style that isn't truly authentic and real. It's driven by Like our muscle of performance of saying, these people need me to show up.

These people need me to look a certain way. And and I don't think that's true leadership. I think true leadership is like fully being authentic and raw and open, but yet still showing up well. and and holding the responsibility of leadership. So th those are the first couple of things I was thinking about with leadership is lonely, is it it's the origin that begins the journey. of loneliness and and what's the origin that began in your story, our stories, that lead you to a place of abandoning who you are for the sake of whatever you're pursuing. Yeah. It's good. Daniel, what do you think, man? Well you said Yeah, this origin idea. I love movies.

So my brain goes to like Star Wars and stuff like that. where you think about the leaders in those movies And they've got to be stripped down completely. Yeah. You know, it they didn't just get to be this great Jedi at some point, or you know, if they go to the dark side for whatever reason. But I think that leadership does require accountability. And so now you're like, okay, this is on me, or some level that's on me, even if you're head of a department. But if you are the CEO or the founder or the chairman, everyone's kind of looking to you towards the vision. At the same time, I'm also I go back and forth because You know, I'm I'm the on the executive leadership team for a genetic company for three X4 genetics.

And so there's a role there that I have to play and be a good teammate and a leader within that. I also founded a hyperbaric oxygen business, so I've got employees that I have to lead from that. And I think there are gonna be moments of loneliness in your leadership. And I also think that leaders get stuck in that narrative because we're not the greatest asking for help sometimes. Yeah. And so Peter kind of changed that for me this year where I think remember I called you and said, I don't know why I'm calling you, but God just told me to call you. So what's up? How you doing? And he was sick for, you know, a couple of weeks and just checking in.

And then started talking. And then he talked to about what he was doing with some other business leaders. And I thought, I think I need that. He's like, I think you need that too. You know, so there was a reason behind it. But yeah, through that, it doesn't change the lonely times that I've had, you know, in my own business. But I've got a group of guys around me now. That I'm like, they actually have my back. I can text guys or give them call and say, I'm working through this. Yeah. And so I think I would also say that leadership is as lonely as you make it. You can isolate, which is what I think Satan wants, is a lot of isolation. Yeah. Or you can accept that there's moments of leadership, but you're going to come back to some sort of community.

And if you can find that, it's not as lonely. There's times where it's like, you know, our buddy Carlos. Carlos, you get to do this by yourself. I don't know your business, but come back. Let's talk through it. So it is lonely, but I also think it's as lonely as you make it. Yeah, that's good. I was thinking about that too. what makes leadership lonely is the the your willingness to bring people with you, like you shared. I think that's everything. It's are you able to do that? And I even when I started my company, that was something I I f like kind of found myself in. And I don't know if you guys found yourself in those moments too, is saying, I need w this is so different than what I've done in the past.

like Come from ministry, it was like more you do stuff with people and then you go and you build a business and then you're isolated and and then you're like this you're dealing with different responsibilities, different weight. And then that's when I was just craving those types of people. And then I was brought into different communities that were where entrepreneurs were, and and then I started to realize, you're dealing with the same thing too. Like you got the same weight on you too. You you you had the same frustrations. And that just helped to humanize and normalize the journey. And and I think the beauty of leadership is people that are in that position, same thing as sin.

I would say we have to normalize this and we have to humanize a journey and we can over spiritualize things. And if we over spiritualize, what happens is we make this a like a a mystery versus like no, we have to go through a journey. Leadership is a journey, faith is a journey, life is a journey. How do we help humanize that and make that something that's very rich and full and beautiful? And I think if we mystify it, then we're we we miss the opportunity of like, no, we're all in this together. Can we join hands and find that brotherhood there? Yeah. I don't know. What do you what do you feel, Peter? It's good. You know, it's funny because like as you're talking, you're reminding me of a pastor who's like somebody's going through something hard.

And you've got the resources to help them, what's financial or connections or whatever, don't say, I'll pray for you. Like you can pray for them, that's fine. But it doesn't fill their belly. Like, yeah. You're still freaking hungry, bro. You know? And so if you can feed them, feed them. Yeah. And whatever feeding them means. Yeah. And but the thing is that no one can feed you unless they know that you're hungry. Yep. And so I think that in community, it's so interesting. It's like, dude, you got to raise your hand, bro. Like, I don't know if something's going on with you. Until you say something. Unless I'm, you know, tuned into the Holy Spirit.

I'm paying attention and then you get a give a phone call like you did. Right. And so raise your hand. Let let know somebody that let somebody know you're hungry, whatever that means to you, and then let somebody help you. If you're on the receiving end of that, freaking do something about it. Yeah. Like, don't be like, I'll pray for you, bro. Yep. You know? The word the best thing you can do actually, instead of just saying I'll pray for you, pray for them right then. Something our good friend Kenny taught me. Yep. It's like, how about you just do it right now? Like Jeremy, let's pray right now. Yeah. And because of him, I've had more awkward in person prayers than I've had in my entire life in the last couple of years, where it's like, I should probably do it right now.

Yeah. Do that right now. And so but here's the other thing on loneliness, man, to underscore this a little bit more. You said it's as lonely as you want as you as you cause it to be. Said something like that. And I'm thinking about whether this is real or not, but Henry Ford, he was having this interview. Maybe this is a made up story, doesn't really matter. and people are like, dude, this guy doesn't know anything about engineering, cars, or any of this crap. So like the press were just like on this guy's case. And so he calls a press conference and he's got a bank of telephones in front of him. He's like, Ask me any question, I can answer it.

So they ask him a real technical question. He picks up engineering line, gets the answer, puts it down, answers the question. Does it again. And they're hey, hold on a second. You don't actually know any of this stuff. He's like, I don't need to. I got the best team ever. I think a lot of us were just not picking up the phone. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, just pick it up, dude. Jeremy's got expertise in XYZ. Just call this guy. And so that's one of my favorite things to do. Be like, What do you need? bro, I got a guy. Yep. Which is kind of an immigrant thing to do too. If I can say that out loud. Right? You think about Sebastian Monascalco if you've seen that bit.

He's like, I His dad's like, I got a crown guy. He tells the dentist, I got a crown guy, I you, I'll get you a crown. You just put it in. Parts and labor. Yeah. But but like, just pick up the phone, man. You know what's cool about that too is that when I don't know about you, most humans, when they've got specific knowledge on something, and somebody asks them for help in that area, it feels so freaking good. Call Daniel, ask him about brain healing. Dude, he's gonna talk your ear off. Can't even get this guy off the phone, right? Because you love helping people with. Things that are related to hyperbaric. You love helping people when it has to do with genetics.

Because you're like, bro, I've got accumulated all this information. You need it? bro. Yeah. Right? Watch out. Let's go. Right. Morrow here, who's behind the camera, right? He's like, dude, you ask him for something about production. He's gonna want us because it feels freaking good to help people with your expertise and your superpowers. And so you're actually doing somebody, you're doing yourself a disservice, not picking up the phone, and you're doing your those other people a disservice, but not letting them help you in their identity. Anything else? Well, as you're sharing, I was just wrestling with this thought of I don't know about you, but being a coach, I have a heart to help people.

Yeah. And so I hear them say, like, can I get a meal plan or can you build me a program? And at first I was like, Yeah, of course. And I would take some time, build it out, spend an hour, couple hours sometimes on different things, just how technical do I need to be for Yeah. And then give it to them. And then they do nothing with it. Yeah. And and feels good. Doesn't it feel good? it feels great. You know? And and that's when I was like, Man, I gotta, I gotta flip my script. And and it it was only until I worked for this one gentleman and he said, Hey, if they don't fit our model, I need you to turn them away. Yeah. And then I started to realize I was like, if they're I have to start to vet them a little bit more and ask some better questions.

So then the people that are really wanting advice. I can hear them what right. And then I can also put them in a frame that helps transform them. Yep. Because I think that's something unique too is sometimes you can give an answer. and so now even like if somebody says, Hey, like I got some nutrition questions for you or some fitness questions for you and like, awesome. I'll ask some probing questions and then maybe just give a quick little answer and say, Hey, if you want more, I'd love to sit down. Yeah. and then see are they willing to kind of draw into the journey with me. And I think that's the the trick of even leadership is like seeing are these people willing to go on the journey that in this ministry I worked for had this thing called after it's an acronym available faithful teachable and responsive and if you wanted to be more kid driven it's you call it a fart faithful available responsive and teachable I like FART better.

But in that that that's such a great tool to when you think about when you engage someone Like, are they available? Are they faithful? Are they teachable? Are they responsive to what you're giving or are they not? And and that helped to kind of switch things and even how to like be a person that can give in in in a way that is more life giving to them. And and it changed it changed my results, it changed everything because I can now build a system and say, I can help you with these things. And if this is what you need, this is this is a parameter that I'm really great at. If not, I need to delegate them, you know, and say you're not for me, but hey, Peter, I got someone for you.

Or thanks. Hey, somebody else, I got someone for you. because it might not just be in the realm that I'm in. And that's where we have to say, I don't know, and that's not my field, and and then refer. And I think I think this is something that's so important in leadership too, is it All relationships can be a win win if you're really holding it well. And if it's not for you, that's not a loss. That's a win to guide them into the next thing that's waiting for them. Yeah. And how do we do that well? and and that's that's the fun part about life is leading people into community more than leading people into like you're the guy that has to solve it all.

Cause we don't. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And how do you do that though? Yeah. Like how do you have that humility? And I think that, you know, we've got our mantra through, you know, our giant curriculum and the mantra is nothing to hide, nothing to prove, nothing to lose. And like that's the only way you can step into that and be like, I don't really know. Yeah. Or I'm not the guy. Because otherwise you'll just like square peg everybody. Because if you're fearful of like losing a client or not making payroll or whatever it is, right? You're trying to prove the fact that you're the guy and in that you take on the wrong client. Yeah. You know? Yeah. You were just making me think about like when I was in my masters and you know, learning from these professors that are doctorates and and we ask them a question, they go, I don't know.

And then make me flash to like people on a pulpit sometimes, like they they feel this pressure to have to like teach everything. And it's like, it's okay not to know certain parts. And it's it's okay just to say this is my best understanding. Yeah. And sometimes even in life, we can just say this is my best understanding. And I don't have an answer to that one yet. but this is what I know so far. And and like, can we even give that kind of cred to people where that was the most refreshing thing, I guess, I wanted to say was having these guys with PhDs say, That's a great question. I don't have an answer to that one yet. Yeah. And letting it be.

And it's like, wait, wait, wait, you don't have an answer for this? Are you sure? Yeah. I thought you were supposed to. And it's like, no. And that's okay. And that helped, especially in development of faith. Yeah. That's what's cool about leaders that can lead like that is that they become human. I think maybe I shared this before on a previous recording, but when the kids ask me a question and I don't know, especially the older the oldest kids. I'm like, hey, you how they say this is not my first rodeo? Like, what does that mean? Because I've done this before. I've got the answers. Like, I'm the specialist. I'm like, this is my first rodeo. I have no freaking idea.

Like, Dad, what do you think about this? I have no idea. I have no answers for you. Like, we'll research this together. And it's refreshing leadership because it's like, wait a minute, you're just a you're on the timeline, you're just a little bit farther ahead on the timeline. Like I didn't come out. I tell the kids I didn't come out of the womb a parent. I was a kid too before. Yep. Yeah. I don't know. I'm just like learning as I go. You know? And the thing is about that is like I was telling this I was at a on site and one of this gals sitting next to me, she was complaining about all the stuff in life and all the burdens. I'm like, hey, we only get process.

Life is nothing but process, then we die. She's like, Well, that's depressing. I'm like, No, it's not. I'm like If it's only process and we're only learning and we're only growing and that's all that life is, well, you can either choose to enjoy the process or suffer through the process. Still gotta do it. So we might as well have a good time. Yeah. This is why I'm like constantly cracking jokes and laughing and being moderately inappropriate, because it's like, dude, life's hard. And I still gotta do all the stuff. So I might as well have a dang good time. Yep. While we do this stuff. I don't know what you think about that. Well, it's funny. You know, you said you called me last minute.

Nothing nothing just comes out of anything, right? So God's got a plan for everything. Yeah. So he led me to read Ecclesiastes this morning. Okay. Right. So Ecclesiastes, nothing's new under the sun, right? What's the purpose of life? Everything is vanity. But just enjoy it. Because everything is vanity, right? It it all points back to God. And last week I was at a dinner for my buddy Doctor Daniel Kimbley. He's a local chiropractor in town. Great dude. And I think he's super intelligent about the brain. Like I look up to him when he talks about neuroscience and we geek out and stuff. But what I'm more impressed of is he's so good at saying nothing is new under the sun.

I'm just the messenger. So if at any point I think that I am helping someone or I'm doing this, I'm just the messenger where God's saying today you get to help out Peter or Jeremy. You're just the messenger. And for my background in pro sports, that's really difficult because You're in entertainment, you're on TV, the athletes are getting all this publicity. And as a backroom staff member, you're like, hey, I'm I'm doing this work, right? I need to get the raise or I need the title. I want to be in invited to the podcast, whatever it is. And when you start thinking about that, your identity becomes what's on the crest, right? I, you know, the galaxy is me, or the national team, or LAFC or the Bulls, whoever your team is.

And I've seen so many people, they they lose that or they think I'm the guy. And it's a reminder whether you're an athlete or a coach, this can all end. You can get fired for no reason at all, or a good reason, or if you're an athlete, you could just tear your ACL and that's the end. And then it's like, okay, well, what happens then? Because I can tell you as a coach, when athletes don't get re-signed and they don't have a job, and now it's, you know, second career time, that's a tough place to be at. At that point, they're not really leaders in their field, right? They're just humans. But the last thing I think of is You know, we expect these things from humans or respect the PhDs or the people who are older us to have all the answers.

But we we treat people like human doings all the time, not human beings. It's just like your value to me is by you doing this service or that or whatever it might be. Not that like you're just a human and you were fearfully and wonderfully made. And because of that, I've got love for you and let's just figure it out. Yeah. So I think the humility piece, which we'll probably touch on a little bit, is Yeah, it's funny, I was at this conference, we were talking about it. Jeremy wants to make me cry, right? We'll see if he can get there. But I was crying because they force you into really deep reflection about your past or like you're trying to get better, you know.

And one thing that I kept thinking about was if I don't make another dollar for the rest of my life, Jesus does not care. Yep. But so many times, you know, as an entrepreneur or an entrepreneur, I'm like, okay, am I gonna. make payroll. Am I gonna make money for my family? You feel like a human doing. You're like, I my only job is to produce. But that's not what we're called to be. Yeah. Right? We don't have to be called to loneliness. Jesus got a bunch of disciples together. When he was lonely, what did he do? He went and prayed to the Father. Yeah. So why would we, you know, go hide in loneliness and I don't know, you guys are connecting so many dots that I I hope that people are encouraged when they have those lonely times to say, Hey, I need to ask for help.

Yeah. I need a bad You know, or reach out ahead of time. How was it for you? I I can only imagine you've you've had to have these moments. but where you're in front of an athlete and they're asking you a question and say and you have you're gonna have to say, I don't know. what I always wonder is like sometimes like those are beautiful moments because when you do say you don't know, it brings a sense of humanness into the moment and they need those moments too. I was part of my background is I'm also I was in the I was a sports chaplain for the surf tour for a little bit, regionally. And and like one of one of the pieces there is like the more that we can bring like true conversation into a moment, the more it it births like connection.

And and so you're there to care for them, but sometimes it's like, hey, I don't have an answer yet, but like I'll get that for you. Or that's a great question, let me get that for you. How ha did you see that kind of deepen relationships with you with the people you're serving? So you can imagine I get this job at twenty three years old and the players know. Someone that young typically doesn't have that job. And so I can't come in and say I know all these things because there's players that have had longer careers as a pro than I have coaching. Yeah. So for the people that know soccer, if you don't, the first year I was at the Galaxy, Landon Donovan One of the greatest US players of all time.

We had Robbie Keane, one of the all-time Irish goals goal scorers of all time. and the list just would go on and on. Eventually we had Steven Gerrard from Liverpool, we had Ashley Cole, we had Nigel DeYoung, Yella Van Dam, Giossi Zardis was a great American player, all these guys. And all I could do was go to them on the first day and say, you probably know more about strategy and tactical, all this kind of stuff. But I can serve you more than anyone else. That's the one thing I can guarantee. So if you want to do whatever workout you want to do, I'll set it up, I'll clean it up, I'll help you out. And a lot of people told me that's the wrong way to go about it.

Establish authority. Here's the program. And so I just did it the opposite. You know, Robbie Keane, he had some low back problems. We're buddies now, so I can say this. He had some low back problems and he did this core workout where it was like so many crunches. And he said, Yeah, I got back pain. I'm like, Yeah, I w I wonder why you got back pain. Right? You're just crunching. You do no other stability work. But instead of me going and saying, Hey, that program's wrong. Let's do the right way, I said, Hey, can I do it with you? Can I suffer with you and do this? And so for nine weeks, I would do his core program and be buddies until one day he said, Hey, do you want to do one of the things that you think is good?

I was like, Yeah, yeah, we can do one, but it's your program. So he'd add in one thing. And then every week that would happen. And eventually there was a program that was going to serve him better. But he felt like it was his and that no one said, Hey, you know, idiot, you got to do this. So that was a style that I went with. And I think in pro sports, what you're talking about about, you know, this idea of just being humble and saying, I don't know, is I was able to develop trust really fast because I said, I may not have all the answers from day one, but I will sweat with you. Every rehab we do, I'd run with the guys. I wouldn't just say, Hey, go do this exercise and I'll watch you.

Cause then when they're saying, man, this is tough, I can barely breathe, I'm like, Yeah, I'm right there with you. I'm sweating with you or whatever it might be. Yeah. So I think building trust sometimes can just be coming alongside someone and saying, Hey Jeremy, I don't know what you're going through. Take sports out of it. Yeah. You don't have to tell me, but I'll come sit with you. Yeah. You know? Yeah. Don't tell me. Let's just go get ice cream or let's go surfing or Yeah. And I think that's what that's a skill set that I was like, okay, I think this will work out this way. And it helped me to build trust quickly where people didn't feel so threatened, like, I've got to tell Daniel my everything.

Yeah. Yeah, man. You so one of the things that we coach clients through is Relationship unlocks influence and impact. And the as you're telling that story I'm thinking about, you ever have a visceral reaction to someone when they're telling you something? And I don't maybe not you guys. You guys are nicer than me, probably. My real my knee jerk reaction is like, who the heck is this guy? Like, you don't get to talk to me like that. You don't get to tell that who the heck is this guy? And I realize the who the heck is this guy is like, I don't have a relationship with that person. Jeremy can come, you can come and tell me something, and I'll sit back and reflect because we have a relationship, right?

True someone off the street that doesn't have a relationship, you're like, get out of here. You haven't earned the right to talk to me about that thing. Or I don't trust you. I don't know. Like, do you actually have expertise in this area? So it's like seeing a doctor and you walk in, they're like, back pain, medicine. And you're like, wait, dude, I haven't talked to you about anything yet. How did I get the back pain? You should ask Like, do you you don't I have no tr I don't trust you. Right? We have no relationship yet. Yeah. And so that what you did, that was exhibiting like, hold on, dude, I have humility. I have enough humility to work alongside you.

I don't actually know why you have back pain. I suspect that I do. But I'm gonna go experience this with you. And as you're working out with you, you guys are becoming buddies, right? And he's like, Okay, I actually like this guy. He cares about me. And he's like done the thing with me. So he knows he's collected a lot of data. You collect a lot of data. You're like, yeah. Crunches for sure, plus this other thing, right? And then he asked you, Hey man, what do you think? Add some other stuff? Yeah. Why? Why did he do that? He trusted you. You built relationship with him. Yep. And then through that you had influence and impact with him. Through that you're able to transform his workout and help him with his back pain, right?

Take a longer timeline, which most people don't like. Yeah. They want the instant microwave. Yeah. But, you know, like you said, it's all process. If it's just process and I have as long as you need. That's right. Yeah, no rush. Take time. That's right. But in the end you had a better result. This is like marathon versus sprint. Like you got a better result than someone who came in and just like hit him over the head with a new workout. Right? Yep. Yeah. I don't know what you think about that. This is your lane. Yeah. I I mean I was just drawing back to like my first days long time ago being a trainer and and learning that sometimes even though I have an expertise in a in a matter, I need to ask why they're choosing that exercise.

What's the motive of that exercise? what's what's your purpose of wanting to do that? Like what's your goal? Rather than saying, Hey, that that exercise like can I show you something better? Yeah. Or can I, you know, you're doing that wrong. and you know, in the gym, I don't know if you guys ever watch it, but you know, there's so many random people doing random things in there and it's my favorite thing to do. Yeah. man. And I'm just I get caught staring at people just because I'm trying to figure out like what what What is the purpose of this? You know, like I don't even understand it. Yeah. But but I I learned to let go of that first question of you're doing something wrong.

And I started to learn to ask a deeper question of like, what share with me your purpose of this. And that that helps to maybe pivot how I approach them a lot of times. And and then in sales, man, that's like the the best thing about sales is Especially in health, okay. They're coming to you because they're needing help, right? But right away they're they're already guarded and and then you gotta get past this quick wall of like, bro, you're the one overweight, you know, like I'm here to help. But how do you how do you transform that? First you gotta ask them, okay, well, hey, what have you tried before? How did that help you? What did you take away from that?

what made you stop? You know, all these questions challenge that process. So in fitness, one of the best things I think is is really fun is in the sales. In the sales of fitness, usually somebody's coming to you for help in their health and their life. And and so you start to, you know, ask some questions and then you find that they're pre-qualifying you and you're like, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. I I'm here to pre-qualify you to see if we're a right match. So what I learned in that is like the first thing I do on a call is say, hey, before we start, love to just understand a couple of things. And then that helps me to explain my program to you.

So like what have you tried? w why did it why did it work? What what didn't work about it? why did you stop? and and what's your goal? Why now? All these things are are taken away, all this armor that we put up, and then we can actually have a real conversation of transformation. Yep. And I think that's that's a better way of approach because then you remove all the obstacles and then you can actually have an authentic conversation. Are we a right match? And if we are, then then the next question is, is the timing now? Okay, it is. Let's move forward. Yeah. If not, hey, I get it. Like this is your choice. And this takes me back to the The rich young ruler on the way, Jesus was walking, and this rich young ruler came up to him and said, Hey, I've done this, I've done this, and I've done this.

And and so, like, Am I good? And he said, You know, give away all that you have and come follow me. And and in that, like, you know, he left with this like sadness to him. And and after, you know, Jesus said, how like how How hard is it for the rich to enter the kingdom of God? but you know, it's easier for a camel to enter a eye of a needle or something like that. but with God all things are possible. And I forgot why I was giving you guys that that statement, but there's something in there for us. Love that. It's good. It was gonna it was profound. Yeah. I felt it. It was coming. No, it's good, man. Well, dude, to switch gears just a little tiny bit, I think, because it's all on the same theme.

Thinking about yoked and what yoked means, right? Which is, you know, it's a junior ox and a senior ox, and they're they're hooked together so that they can do what? Like senior ox can train the junior ox, it can carry the weight, actually a disproportionate amount of the weight, train it how fast to go, where to go, when to go left, when to go right, when to stop, when to start, all that stuff. How does that translate to you in leadership and business and family, Daniel. like I I think that a lot of Christian leaders they say they trust God but then they they live their life like they're carrying it on their own, which goes back to the loneliness really, right?

If we think about it. And so what does yoked mean to you? where do you feel like you're getting it right? Where do you feel like you're exhausted because you're not and that sort of thing. Where am I getting it right? That should be a a long list, right? But I think sometimes you're so you have so much accountability of like, well, I've got a lot of stuff I need to fix or not a lot of stuff I need to do. I think the part is kind of what what Jeremy said in the beginning is origin. So origin, like, why did I start hype? It was a true divine intervention in a dream that God said, You're gonna do this for a lot of people, not just for Lauren. Hyperbaric can be a thing, but We gotta start this together.

And so I think I got the confidence that God is my co founder. He's my partner in this. And if I don't talk to my partner for more than a few days, and I'm like, Well, what what's going on? Why is it you know? And he's like, Well, I've been sitting over there, why don't you ask me? You know, spend time with me, the whole relationship thing. Yeah. So I wanna say that's right. Get it right. Now there's probably a lot of complaining I do to God. Like, God, just give me the burden of millions of dollars to match, you know. It's not the time right now. But again, you're just catching me on a good weekend where I'm realizing that I'm realizing what it means to pick up your cross and carry it every single day.

That every day you're choosing to be with Jesus. You're choosing the life that He has for you. And if I get distracted and say, you know what? I'm good today. I'm behind on this, so I'm gonna skip that meeting. I get distracted myself personally. Yeah. I don't think I can go more than a few hours without talking to God. But sometimes I do because I wake up and I want to work out or I want to do these things. I was training for a hundred mile race earlier in the year. And so a lot of my I was too. Yeah, okay. We were doing this together. One of my training times was mainly in the morning. And there started being this period of time where I was like, God, I'll just meet with you later.

And sometimes I would and sometimes I wouldn't. And I got these like weird foot injury and weird foot injury and weird knee injury. I've never been this injured my entire life. And then Asking God, like, well, what's going on? You know, I'm athletic. I should be able to do this. And whether it's true or not, I felt like God said, if you don't spend time with me, I'm gonna take this away. Because you're missing the big picture and you think you're on the right path, but you're not. And I had to submit and say, you know what? It it people can read their Bible anytime they want. But for Daniel, what I need is I need the focus first thing in the morning.

If I don't spend time with you, then I'm gonna get distracted during the day. And so running will be there. So that's just my own thing where I'm probably getting it right sometimes, getting it wrong, but I'm trying to be diligent. And also like what my kids see. Yeah. I don't need to force stuff on them, but when they wake up in the morning, they see me reading my Bible, this big Bible, what are you reading today, Daddy? And I can tell them, well, I'm learning about wisdom. And wisdom's tough because you've got to go through trials to get wisdom. You know, and I I have this conversation with my kids. Yeah. I think that's something that is powerful that we've talked about in the past is.

Like if you were to ask me what is success, for me it's at some point if my kids claim to have a life with Jesus, I don't care what they do for jobs or anything as long as it's moral and ethical. But if they're like, I've got a relationship with Jesus, then great. You go work wherever you want, you know? That's what me and my wife are like. That's our legacy is them saying, Hey, this is our own choice, not just 'cause mom and dad did it. So Yeah. Trying to figure a lot of that out. We'll see. That's good, man. Jeremy, how about you, bro? You made me think about like when you're doing these hundred mile runs, something that's so unique about just training in general is usually the the weak parts of us come out when we start to get a little exhausted.

And if we're not attuned to them, then they will e exacerbate and like that's where injuries come. Yep. And so like I just was thinking about that even with our faith journey, right? It's like if we're grinding And we're not staying in a state of awareness, those things start to become very intricate into our life and start to bring a lot of decay quickly. and that's when you find yourself in your marriage or relationship just starting to distance. And how do you get back on track? Well, it's like you gotta stay consistent about your first love and you gotta stay after that. And when it does come up, well, maybe back off on your pace and get re repositioned in your pace.

And that helps. but that's something I was thinking about as you're sharing, is just it's all about pace. And it's all about our attitude. It's all about our awareness. And if we show up well, that's that's all that, you know, God wants in us is just to authentically show up well. And and you're doing that. And like stay staying in that element of My pace, you know, what am I doing? How am I doing it? The more that you get to do that, like you're gonna be surprised where you are. And and that's what I'm excited for you, that you're taking on these new endeavors. And I feel what we're called to do in life is bear responsibility, carry authority, speak life into this world.

And when we do that, that like it brings permission for others to know that they have that capacity too. but it begins by a first you and first me. And as we do, then it like actually launches us into our next level. But I don't know. how's it for you? What do you feel, Peter? I I I'm thinking there's like twenty-seven visuals I got when you guys were talking. trying to figure out which direction to go. surprised. What one is like this early morning routine that you're talking about, and I think that that's like the foundation that the day can sit on. You know, and then as we set it aside to do things that are more important, even if we don't say that out loud, that foundation starts to crack and dissolve, and then all of a sudden our house is built on sand and we know that metaphor.

So that's part of it. The other part of it that I I think I is important for us to underscore is that it doesn't have to look like that all the time. And I think about Adam and Eve in the garden, they're just walking hand in hand through the garden, right, in the cool of the day. They're just chilling. Literally, just like friends hanging out. Yep. Tending the garden. It was a constant communication and relationship that we talked about earlier. So I think the insidious thing is that it feels like it needs to look like a certain way. It's like an hour of quiet time in the prayer closet. Maybe. Maybe it's just on your drive. Maybe it's on your ridiculous hundred mile run.

Maybe it's on like we're supposed to be in constant relationship. Like, what does look like? And then the metaphor in this video, which I've got a link, link to it because I've shared it all the time and I gotta find it. It's this hilarious video. I think maybe I've talked to you about it. And it's this g sheep herder and he's in somewhere in Scotland or something like that. He's got all these tourists with him, and he challenged them. He's like, Hey, call them in. And so each one of these people is like making noise, like banging pants, doing all kinds of stuff. And the video pans to the sheep. They're just grazing, bro. Like they're not even there.

They're speaking super loud. Nothing. Sheep herder calls them in. They stop immediately. They look up. And then they cart come running to them. Wow. Why? The sheep will know my voice. Yeah. Right? God's always talking. We just don't recognize his voice because we don't hang out with him. And so it doesn't need to just look like. Morning Bible time. That's great. I'm not like discrediting that at all. But I feel like we've put in the box. It's like Sunday morning routine, on with my day. No, I don't think so. Try that with your wife. We'll see how that works. Try that with friends, right? Doesn't work. Those relationships dissolve, but it was supposed to mean constant communication and sometimes it just looks like like you're talking to yourself like a crazy person.

And that's totally fine. I don't think there's anything wrong with that. You don't need an Amen. No. Continual prayer. Yeah. Or like when we guard some of our prayers where we're like, I can't say that. It's like he already knows, bro. Like he already knows. Yeah. Some people are like, bro, I curse sometimes in my prayer. I'm like, you think he doesn't hear you when you're not? Yeah. He knows your thoughts. He knows your thoughts, dude. Like so just get it out and have the conversation. Yeah. And that's where real relationship happens. And that's how we get guided on whether this client's the right person or whether this project's the right thing.

Totally. Right. It's just in that constant checking in throughout the day, not just in the morning routine. So Yeah. I was just thinking about this of how easy is it where your morning routine, your drive home from work, your night routine, just how you wake up, how you go to bed, how you come home, like those should be moments to like check in with yourself of heart, where are you? Body, where are you? Mind attitude, where are you? Like not so much, it's not it doesn't have to be this thing that produces the man, but it could also be this opportunity to like develop the man and form the man and help us to be aware. Cause we we are we are so it's so easy to carry the world on our shoulders.

But how how much do we actually have this ability to check in with ourselves? Like, am I coming home ready for my family? Yeah. Am I coming home giving them my first? Or am I just giving my leftovers? Am I waking up exhausted? Well, why am I waking up exhausted? What's going on that's causing this? Have I not like really examined my heart lately? Like what what is this? Am I not getting my guide time? Am I not getting my outlets? What's going on that's causing this? And I think that that I started to think through. It's like we think we think about, okay, hey, it's all about a routine, but maybe our routines can be the opportunities to provoke the deeper things.

What's forming me? What should be transforming me? How do I let these moments be about that? And I think that's that that's something I was just thinking about for us, but I think it's everything. So what's one thing for the leader that's listening? like what can they do with what we talked about this week to help them just be a better leader, be a better human? What's your takeaway for them? It'll be highly personal to me, but I always just say start your morning with God, even if it's two minutes. Yeah. It doesn't have to be this long thing. Two minutes, just ask God. Like For help. This whole leadership is an only thing, keeps sticking with me.

Cause the second thing I would say is ask someone you trust, right? The relationship, ask them for help. And literally just say, Hey, I'm praying about this, but you've got a skill set that I could use. I think some people are afraid to ask for help because they don't want to owe someone something, or maybe they don't have the money to afford it. It can be a whole host of reasons. Yeah. But I think if you just find that community or that person and say, hey, I really need help on this. And give them the up front, I don't have any money, or I've got some money, but I'm missing on this. Can you can you do something? I think most of the time someone's gonna help.

Yeah. Especially if you have a a like a brotherhood of another believer. Yeah. I mean, we should want to help everyone. I think we're excited about that. But when there's a believer, a brother in Christ that says, Hey, I need something, I'm pretty bad at business then where I'm like, free. All right. Let's just get it. But I just trust God that like, hey, he put someone in my path that like needs a real freebie right now. Because I just again I'm a co-founder with God. And if I trust that He's got my back, he'll walk people in the door that have the cash. Yeah. So I would say start with a prayer. As as raw and vulnerable as as it is. You know, give me new eyes for my wife.

Could you put on my wife's heart to ask me how I'm doing? Those are the real prayers that I have sometimes. Yeah. and then find your guys. Yeah. Find your tribe. Yep. Yeah, no doubt. That's how we ended up here. Jeremy and I had the most aggressively bad recording session. We had a good time. man, it was horrible. It was horrible. I mean, it's four hours, three of hours us trying to set up Camera gear. Morrow thought it was amazing. He's like, I don't even know why you're here. Content was awesome. Yep. Yeah. He's not agreeing with you saying that by the way. He said, he said headroom. I don't even know what that is, but it I took it as really bad.

Yeah, because we we did have an idea. We were like, hey, we do need to film some stuff. I think we should try it. And then that's when what we tried and we we failed horribly. But yeah. Keep going. Keep going. Yeah, I mean, bro, four hours. I think three hours of us trying to figure out how to get it all set up and we are sweating to death, right? and then reached out to Mark and Mark's like, dude, just come use my space. You know, so shout out to Mark Moss. I mean, it was just so rad. He's like, just come use it. Great man. Come use it. What do you mean come use it? and then I walk in here and realize that I'm in over my head and it's awesome.

So thankful that Morrow can run gear that we don't even know how to use the buttons. So use it. Yeah, it's a perfect example of that, you know. okay, where can people find you? Where can they learn more about? Three X four hype, all things, Daniel. So we'll talk about this another time, but genetics is something that I think everyone should look into. Yeah. Especially like the Christian lifestyle. You've done it. Yeah. If you don't know your genetics, everything is a guess. Yeah. I've been at the highest level of sport and health and wellness. Everything is a guess. And people get lost and they get into crisis. So three x four genetics dot com is a great place to start.

With hype, hype will in the studio in San Juan Capistrano. If we're the right fit, we'll help you out. If not, if we're not, we'll guide you towards someone else. And then I do most stuff on Instagram at Daniel P. Guzman, which I'm sure we can link somewhere. Yeah, for sure. I'm not that big time. I don't get a lot of messages. You're big. So when I do, I answer every single one that I can. Yeah. But those are probably the two places. All right. That's the Yokes Podcast. Me, Jeremy Hebbitz, Daniel Guzman. if this has been helpful, share it with a Christian leader, friend of yours, that would find the content helpful. Till next time. Cheers. Cheers.

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